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Candace's avatar

Detaching gets easier and easier the more years you spend loving the addicted person. For me, I spent the greater part of the last 7 years of our marriage trying to get him help with his addiction (pot), including contacting rehab facilities to see if he would qualify. I tried repeatedly to talk him into in-patient detox...I knew that was the only way for him. He tried maybe 2x in our marriage to quit (cold turkey) and he became violently ill. Suffice to say, after the last failure of quitting, I stopped begging him to get help. I removed my emotions from the situation and started to think about my son's life without a drug addict dad in it regularly. Seeing that his life would be better and healthier without having an addict dad helped me detach. It has been 4 months since we divorced and 2 months since he moved out. The last 2 months gave been the best 2 months I have had as a mom. Loving someone who cared more about their addiction than their own child brought me great sadness and shame, but letting go of that person and knowing that I am not to blame for their addiction and behavior has been so liberating. I still struggle from time to time (we were together 17 years), but my head is cleared of the "abuse fog/loop" I was in and I can quickly snap back now. ❤️

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Michelle Anderson's avatar

Candace, I love everything you just shared. And I am so, so proud of you. Warms my heart to think about your future. Well done!

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Candace's avatar

Thank you, Michelle. Your words have equally helped me. It stinks that we suffered, but it's nice to know we aren't going through this alone. ❤️

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Jen Hebard's avatar

You are so incredibly strong. I know we don’t know each other, but I understand and I wanted to say…. I’m very proud of you. I hope you are doing well. 💛

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Candace's avatar

Thank you! We are doing well. Things are so much better for both of us. I still pray for my ex, as I believe that every child needs a relationship with his/her dad. The issue is, that parent needs to be sober. I seriously doubt my ex is ( he sees our child about 2x a month for 2 hours), but there is still hope he will find sobriety and become the kind of dad that our child needs. ❤️ This community has helped me tremendously over the last year. Seeing that I am not alone, and also being able to help others dealing with addicts in their own life is truly a blessing. I appreciate your kindness.

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Rachii's avatar

Thank you Candace for your comment. As mine to is in the same addiction issue as your ex.

He’s tried going cold turkey multiple times but he gets so anxious and mad about every single thing. I can’t breathe right and I become so “annoying” to him that he needs it to deal with me. 🙄 We have a baby together and I can’t even imagine not having us all together under the same roof. I would die without having my baby with me for a day or a night.

I wish he’d just quit for good and never go back. He’s such a good person but bad as an addict

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Candace's avatar

I can 100% relate to you. My ex and I were together for 17 years...he had the addiction for all those years, but it got much worse after our child was born (7 years old now). I spent the better part of those 7 years begging him to get help. He also tried cold turkey a couple of times with, of course, poor results. I prayed so many nights that he would overcome his addiction and be there as a husband and father. It got to the point where I couldn't even leave my child with him for an hour because I was worried he would yell or fall asleep (the latter happened much more often). I was sp scared I would not get full custody if we divorced so I didn't initiate it. He did, and thank goodness he recognized he was not capable of taking care of his child and I got 100% custody!! I completely understand why you can't leave. I am a testament to things working out one way or the other. My ex also is not a bad person, but his addiction certainly is. Best case, he gets help and overcomes his addiction and can be a proper partner to you, but if that doesn't happen, please fight for yourself and your child. No matter what, you must protect yourself and your baby. I am going to pray for you and hope that a resolution will occur sooner than mine did. 🙏

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Anita's avatar

I love this it’s so timely for me. Made it through another horrendous long wknd! He is a bringer. So now for the next couple weeks we go through the mood cycles aaaagh I’m really sick of it. When he has been sober for a few weeks he is the best guy. I am getting better at detaching from his problems and focusing on myself but I feel very lonely doing it because as the article says people don’t understand why we are doing what we are doing. My home used to be a place that everyone just dropped in and felt so welcome. Now it’s so different and sometimes I feel so lonely and resentful. I’ll have been married to him for 25 years this summer !!!! Since the pandemic I have been doing so much self care to remember who I am and it’s been good. But it’s exhausting.

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Michelle Anderson's avatar

Anita, I too used to dread the weekends due to his addiction (until addiction became a six - seven day habit and then it didn't matter what day of the week it was). And I can totally relate about feeling lonely, interestingly - I have studied friendships and statically, a lot of people are very lonely these days (even if they are in healthy marriages). That was surprising to me since I thought I was the only one:) Who knows? Maybe a new friendship is right around the corner?

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Anita's avatar

Thankyou I do have a good circle of friends I just don’t see them much. Yesterday I invited company and we had a fun day! Taking control of my life again!

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Shelly Botkin's avatar

Since 9/2023 I have stopped doing it all. I worked for him part-time and full-time since 2016. I have never been paid, although he paid his sons, his ex-wife when they were married, his daughter, his nephew, his great nephew, but never me and I did everything from getting his beer to cleaning toilets, to Quickbooks, taxes, reports to the government, you name it I did it. Now I am done doing everything and I have realized I am married to a 15 year old in a 58 year old body. He is penniless, he can't get the taxes done, he can't pay his bills, he can't do anything and I won't help him. I have two master's degress and I am trying to find a job in this Podunk town we live in. I still take care of the dogs because it is not their fault, I have had people tell me just leave, leave the dogs and take care of yourself. Okay, I live with a selfish, uncaring person, these dogs did not ask to live here I brought them here, so I am not leaving without them. I have three autoimmune disorders and I have to rely on God or I will literally just sit here and give up. I have detached so much, that I don't know if he will wind up in prison for tax evasion, or if I will. I have no friends, no family to really reach out to, and if I don't rely on God I will not make it. The detaching is hard when you are by yourself, but it is necessary. It is vital to make sure you are not turning yourself into the next "crazy" lady walking the streets talking to herself. I don't know how I am going to get out of this but I know God has a plan and all I can do is trust him. I have no idea where to go from here except a job, then to find a place for me and 6 dogs and start over at age 58. I guesss if Moses can move 2 million people at age 80, and Sarah can have a baby at 99, then I am a child compared to them and God I know still has a plan. The only part I hate about myself if this is my fourth marriage because I was so trying to be the "good christian wife" that I was expected to be, until I learned that most people don't even understand what that means and churches that kept telling me to hang in there, well thanks for nothing. I won't give up on God, but I can't go back to church they have no clue about mental health and addiction, I pray all the time, I give everything to God, but church is just not for me right now. The detaching is getting easier, the living a life with no money is where it gets hard.

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Elizabeth Faraone's avatar

Detaching, like all things, has consequences. It’s quite amazing how our psychology works. I got somewhat good at detaching but recently I noticed that I’ve started to detach from important things. I’ve been doing this for so long sometimes I feel lost. I go through cycles of strength and resilience and then sadness and loneliness. I am still with my partner. He is better than he used to be (because I don’t enable him) but now I worry about some mental health signs that could be due to his long term cocaine abuse. This morning I woke up and resolved to do some things differently, again. I’ll find my bearings and keep going. Remembering how incredibly blessed I am and how naturally happy I am helps. In the end, I have no regrets.

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TERESA's avatar

We were separated for 4 years and have been divorced almost a year and he has been living with another woman for 3 years. We were together 17 years and most of the time I spent in hell covering up for him and fixing everything he destroyed but, he is the love of my life and I do deserve better than the way he treated me. I should hate him but, I keep forgiving him and thinking about him and I don't want to. He went to prison for 15 mths with a DWI and was in rehab after that for 30 days. He cheated on me repeated for 14 of the 17 yrs we were together and I just kept forgiving him. We were still communicating by text for the past year till his girlfriend sent me a text 2 weeks ago on his phone and told me to leave him alone and that he is still a drunk and she is trying to get him help so he will stop drinking and change for her....All I can say to her is good luck cause he has been a drunk for almost 50 yrs and neither me or his 1st wife could change him. My issue is I think about him alot and I don't know how to let him go and move on. I have not dated in the 3 years we have been separated and I feel like I will compare other guys to him (when he was sober). How do you let go of such a toxic person?

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Michelle Anderson's avatar

Teresa, I thought about my ex husband for many years after leaving him and I even compared him to my second husband - I feel like it's only natural when you have been in a relationship for so long. And I am positive my second husband compared me to his previous wife - wouldn't it be weird if we didn't? But most of my thoughts were, "gosh, I am so grateful I left my marriage and kept trying at love because I wouldn't have found my second husband." Try to be kind with yourself - there's no right way to untangle yourself from this mess. Letting go is a process that takes a very long time. You can do this - keep looking ahead.

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Sarah K's avatar

This has been such a hard concept for me while navigating my husbands addiction and recovery. Sooo much pain. This man was once my best friend and we told each other everything (except about his hidden alcohol addiction). Now after 5 years of addiction into recovery I feel like we barely know each other. We're friends again, but that's it. All the passion is gone and we both have a lot of resentments we are working through... I feel utterly heartbroken. But one of the gifts of my own recovery this far has been realizing I'm allowed to carry my joy alongside my grief. There are good weeks for me as I become my own again and bad ones, and both are acceptable. My sponsor says we're like onions, constantly peeling back our layers to find deeper healing

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Michelle Anderson's avatar

"...I become my own again..." 💝

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Ally's avatar

I left my alcoholic partner of 30 years 6 months ago with my Son (my daughter is at uni) and have just signed another 6 months rental agreement, my stomach didn’t even churn this time as I knew I was doing the right thing. I’ve not seen him since January however I’m finding it difficult to detach as he keeps sending me conflicting messages, he only ever sees me as black or white, he hates me one minute then in the next breath he says he’s changed and pleading for me to go back. I’ve been told by my own kids to block him but the fact is I still care about him but know I could never go back to that life. I’ve always been told I’m a forgiving person. Hopefully in time something will click into place and I will start thinking about self love. After years of doing everything for him I can’t help feel guilty that he is lonely, despite how vile he has been to me over the years.

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Elizabeth Faraone's avatar

I know that vile treatment. And I know the love and sense of responsibility you feel. I’ve got no answers for you or for myself (as I reflect on my very recent fight with him- my stomach is churning from stress and I have a headache). All I can say is you are not alone. I will say congratulations your daughter is in university!!! That is a wonderful accomplishment for both of you, truly. Sending you love and light. May God/the Universe continue to bless you.

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Ally's avatar

Thank you Elizabeth for your kind words of support, it brought a tear to my eye (tbh I am wiping my tears most days). My children have been so supportive and I am extremely proud of them.

Also knowing that we are not alone and chatting with other people in the same situation helps put things into perspective. We are strong women and walking away was the hardest part, so we should be proud of ourselves too. We have not been put on this planet to be controlled and have a right to be happy, although I have to keep reminding myself of this when I start getting reeled back in!

Good luck in your own journey too and I hope over time the stress and arguments becomes less and less.

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Elizabeth Faraone's avatar

The tears really are something, aren’t they? I also have a girl (12) and a boy (7). It warms my heart reading how proud you are. It sounds like they are good kids. I hope and I pray mine will turn out okay. Thank you also, for your kind words. Feeling the love makes a difference. All the very best to you out there 💜

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Ally's avatar

I have felt quite guilty at times for putting my kids (now 24 & 20) through the drama for so long and not walking away sooner. They try their best to have a good relationship with their father although his behaviour makes it quite difficult at times. However, it has made them stronger and makes them realise what they don’t want from a relationship and I know that they will treat their partners with respect. I’m sure your children will feel the same and will know how much their mother cares for them.

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Ally's avatar

…and as of yesterday and after my final counselling session I decided to block him. My counsellor asked me if I would ‘choose’ him as a friend and also would I stay friends with someone who disrespected me. My answer was No, I think it finally clicked into place (for now anyway)

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Elizabeth Faraone's avatar

This gives me comfort. Thank you. Sincerely.

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chris's avatar

I'm trying to make myself #1. I have health issues I need to take care of now not when I have a free moment if I were just concerned about the addicted one.

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Abbie Michlig's avatar

How do you determine what an unnecessary responsibility is?

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Michelle Anderson's avatar

Everybody's situations are so unique so it's difficult to make a sweeping suggestion. Instead, I'll use myself as an example: I thought it was my responsibility to provide my kids with two loving parents who showed up for soccer practice, dinners and school conferences. I was wrong. My responsibly was to provide my children with one. Me. If he didn't show up for dinner because he was at a bar - fine, we will eat without him. If he was too passed out to attend soccer practice - fine - I'll cheer on my kids without him. If he had no idea what was going on at school - fine - I didn't need his feedback to communicate with his teachers. Of course, I wanted him to take on the responsibly and enjoyment of having kids but I could not make up for all the times he let them down. It wasn't my job to fix his life. It was my job to uphold my life the best I could. I hope that helps:)

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Abbie Michlig's avatar

Super helpful! Thank you so much for the reply.

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Sarah's avatar

Not being resentful has got to be the hardest part for me. I guess it's because he's told me so any times I'm the reason for his drinking. He also doesn't get completely trashed until after dinner meaning it's a choice he makes.

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Michelle Anderson's avatar

Try not to accept any blame. He would be drinking this much if you loved him or you left him. This disease tries to make us feel guilty but every time your mind goes there - be kind and whisper a little encouragement to YOURSELF. I believe in you.

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Nanette's avatar

I have been listening to your podcast on and off since 2022. I have finally made it here. For today-- I would like to tell you thank you. Even a short 6 minute message helps me still try to process what has happened with my man I love who lives with this horrible disease.

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Michelle Anderson's avatar

So welcome 💕

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Jenny's avatar

Detachment is pretty much my default these days, but then it's "you're so cold to me, I deserve to be loved, and I'm only doing this to feel happy because you don't love me". If I tell him he did something that hurt me, then I'm degrading him and he deserves respect. If I question anything then I don't trust him enough and am just throwing the past in his face - nevermind the fact that he is caught in lies all the time and I have zero reason to trust him. I ask him to please stop running up credit card debt and he's a "prisoner in my own home." Idk how to fix my own toxic behaviors without buying into his blame game. The gaslighting is exhausting. Twenty years in and I barely recognize myself. I have nothing left.

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Meghan W's avatar

I hear you, it’s so hard to see the forest for the trees. His addiction has you confused, turned around, exhausted, and barely functioning. I don’t know how how much advice is appropriate here but digging into codependency, working on setting boundaries and HOLDING THEM (the very hardest part), and putting myself and my peace first have helped me tremendously. You deserve peace and serenity, not lies, manipulation, and gaslighting. Please take care of yourself ❤️

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Wendy's avatar

I had to stop accepting the never ending blame husband sends my way. I had to stop trying to get him to see, admit, and understand. I had to stop trying to change him. I had to stop fixating my thoughts and feelings on him. These are the ways I detached. I still love him but I have discovered myself and I keep my emotional tank full all on my own.

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Karen Hollabaugh's avatar

For me, detachment means not saying anything when he opens a bottle of wine. It means not fixing things that happen while he is inebriated. It means not making his choice for him if he is passed out asleep (Most nights, he fills water glasses and the humidifier in the bedroom, while I make him a double shot latte!). This week I will see my therapist. I started with a new person who is VERY practical and has experience with Addiction. Detachment also means not having to ask "permission" to go out with friends, etc. It means telling / confirming schedules as part of the family. Also, I am learning it is not my fault of he is having a bad day, feels frustrated about something, etc. I have some areas I am still growing, but overall, I am doing much better!

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chris's avatar

any suggestions

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